Guest Blogger: Gretchen F.
I kind of feel gypped out of my blog "week". Only having two days of class to get information on for my blog. This is kind of hard because Government is done talking about Government. Thompson is now on the AP test. Then In English we are writing this semi confusing paper on education where we have to "continue the conversation". Now i don't want to write my blog on what i think on this topic because i don't want to waste my few ideas on here. So the question again comes to WHAT SHOULD I WRITE ABOUT? We are talking about education in English, and higher education in Geography so what am i suppose to talk about with this insperation? Well i spend time thinking about this and come up with a brilliant idea. I can talk just about the broad term education.
education is deffined as
1."The act or process of educating or being educated."
I figured this really didn't give any insight into what education was (seriously just using the word two diffrent ways!?)
2. "The knowledge or skill obtained or developed by a learning process"
This gives me a little more to think about. So if education is really just the knowledge or skill that you have gained then couldn't a high school drop out have the same amount of education as a college graduate. Video gaming takes skill or so im told, and when your life takes a bad turn you may end up a few rungs down the ladder but you now have gained the education on what not to do in that situation. So i don't think someone can be MORE educated then someone. Even a gamer who lives in his parents basment can have the same AMOUNT of education as a college grad. it's just the quality of that education that makes the diffrence. So its not education that is the key. Its GOOD education.
Thankyou and this concludes deep thoughts with Gretchen. Thankyou for understanding why this is here and not on the blog.
posted by erdecker @ 3:21 PM
14 comments
14 Comments:
What did you mean by the "Quality" of education? My view on a well educated person is someone who is willing to expand their knowledge and skills as best of their ability through school and life experiences and applying it through many different things in their life. Many people can have the same level of knowledge and skills after they graduate from high school or college but I view the "better" educated person as someone who uses their knowledge and skills they learned and expand it and to apply it to different things such as careers, life experiences, investments, etc.. that will best benefit that person. Instead of the other people who applies their knowledge and skills to things that don't unleash their full potential.
Ramon F Banzon
Yes, although education is simply the "skill obtained by a learning process", it's purpose is a little deeper. I believe the true purpose of education is to discover oneself and to have the tools and skills needed to answer one's own questions. That is what one truly an adult. It's purpose is not to answer the questions for us, but rather to get students to answer questions for their selves.
Marina
"...because I don't want to waste my few ideas on here."
D'oh!
Education is not one size fits all. That subjectivity could very well be the reason why the gamer is in his parents' basement right now; what the college graduate sees as a proper education might not appeal to said gamer at all.
Ramon asks a valid question: How does one define the quality of an education? And is education really so quantitative that one can simply compare it in "amounts?" How do we figure out what should be taught and what shouldn't? I doubt I'll ever find universal answers to these questions, so I'm trying to figure them out for myself.
100 years, considered relatively long for the life span of a human, is relatively short considering how much schooling we go through.
I'm going to stop typing before my head explodes.
I get where your coming from but I think its more clear if you said that a college grad maybe an expert in certain subjects whereas a high school drop out might be smarter than them with, let say, street smarts. Its like Emerson's idea that students should be given the tools to teach themselves. For me this would result in a combination of book smarts and street smarts. That would make a quality education.
To have a good quality of education there needs to be the step where the individual is taught how to learn, so when the classroom setting comes to an end the learning does not.
I belive that Education can not be measured or compared.
HOWEVER, What one does with said education is very much so measurable. If you take our two students, the high school drop out "gamer" and the College graduate, and look at their lives; who has used the education they have to better their lives and the lives of the people around them?
In my book i read, Outliers, by Malcolm Gladwell he makes it clear that great people don't become great from only having great opportunities (although that is his main point) but that these great people have to devote hours and hours (10,ooo to be exact) to master any thing. And I believe mastering important life skills and jobs is more important then masters video games.
Therefore I believe that you can judge people's education on how determined they are at succeeding to better them selves and the people they interact with.
But if a gamer is down stairs not going to school how are they equal to a college graduate? They arent learning anything other then how to kill the enemy on Call of Duty. They arent learning anything that is going to help them in the real world. No one can learn everything in one day. Quantity matters a ton.
My personal definition for education is that education is something that prepares you for life to make one more "qualified," and to be able to survive in the real world. So unless the guy living in the basement at his mother's house is a professional gamer and is able to support himself, he doesnt have the education he needs to suceed.
thats just one of my many thoughts....
Emily, said quantity matters a lot...
does that mean if the gamer who knows everything there is to the streets and has been on for 30+ years knows more than a HS grad with a BS degree?
I see education is the knowledge one gets. The more the more knowledgeable, but it is how useful what you know is to your life. So if a nursing students knows how to get highest level in COD, that is not useful. Yet, those same skills is useful to the gamer who plans on using those skills/
I've always felt that education is not the curriculum, but more the person. I know a lot of people who are a lot more "smart" in ways than people who are at the top of their class. This might include social skills such as "street smarts" and such, or just in general have an overall life philosophy which allows them to achieve more outside of the accepted Curriculum
I agree with Hilary but the problem is not enough students sre being taught how to learn correctly or in a way that helps them. This make learning outside the classroom difficult for a lot of people.
Your thoughts are very deep Gretchen, but technically a college grad has undergone many more years of education. What if the college grad was also a gamer and was a beast at Call of Duty, then who would have even more education? The two people in this scenario could have possibly had the same education at one moment, but the grad continued is. Everyone is educated, but some are just more educated than others in different aspects
Keenan: "I've always felt that education is not the curriculum, but more the person. I know a lot of people who are a lot more "smart" in ways than people who are at the top of their class."
You're saying that intelligence and education are the same thing?
I sure hope not, because there is quite a clear distinction between them. Gretchen even says that the gamer is educated (but not necessarily intelligent) due to all the knowledge gained from playing games. Maybe the "street smarts" you refer to are the person's ability to pick up knowledge from doing everyday things?
Of course, now I'm defining knowledge as education, and I've heard quite a few arguments to the contrary, such as the whole "training vs education" argument. You also say that the skills learned are not knowledge, but the ability to communicate, etc. I suppose these are some of the hardest areas to teach, as well as some of the most useful skills to have.
But, if you have nothing to talk about, then they suddenly become much less important.
- Thomas D
It's interesting to see just how pervasive memory has become in our lives. It seems like everywhere I turn, I see something with a card slot or USB jack . I guess it makes sense though, considering how cheap memory has become as of late...
Gahhhhh... who am I to complain. I can't get by a single day without using my R4 / R4i!
(Submitted by PostNext for R4i Nintendo DS.)
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